Re Kicad vs Eagle, Andrew Lynch often spends a week in the optimiser running Kicad, and with Eagle I do the same board in about 10 minutes. 2. I don't even think of it as "settling" for KiCad, I prefer it in many respects to Eagle. There are no features of altium I really miss- polygon pour manager is not in cs, the PDF outputs are a bit lacking and there is no copy rooms feature. It was surprisingly easy to switch. KiCAD is better if you are interested in a non-licence type software. Sorry for the rant, but I really have a hard time imagining how can one REALLY like Eagle. EasternStarGeek writes… I still feel it is best to learn on a Eagle, Diptrace, or KiCad class tool before moving on to Altium, Mentor, or similar. An Electronic Design Automation (EDA) package is pretty much essential for any serious PCB work, and quite a lot of non-serious work too (which is where I come in). There’s an interesting topic with great replies in our forums (and on the oshw list), “KiCAD vs Eagle” – post up which tool your prefer, why and list specific features. There have been a few articles about KiCAD vs Cadsoft’s Eagle CAD and I hope soon to write my own comparison and also reference these other articles: So yeah, I'd love to transition to another cad program, I've been thinking about Altium Designer and KiCad. you too, like user m37driver, say "Altium for the industry, KiCad for the hobby", why is that? Kicad is a free open-source software that is developed by volunteers. I’d stay with Eagle and avoid a switch. There is a big amount of lobraroes in the internet and already in eagle it self. That being said, there are three PCB design packages that tend to be the most popular and considered the best: Altium Designer, Eagle, and OrCad. For larger companies with engineering teams, I have only seen the use of Cadence (Allegro/Orcad), Mentor Graphics (PADS/Xpedition), and Altium. (And when I get it back in 3 weeks, we'll see how I did!) Also, I'm not very hopeful here, but who knows, are any of the Eagle library files compatible with either Altium or KiCad? I’ve already talked about this a little, but here’s where I’m at. Or the fact that when connecting things in either schematic or board mode, the programs doesn't really give you a confirmation of a successful connection. Easy learning curve. So, one does not require to purchase any licence. I am still in transition to KiCAD. BONUS: It's a means to an end, it beats vellum and tape. I've seen YT video but it's been decades since computers got powerful enough to handle PCB designing. The following 5 ulp (eagle user script file) and one ulp include file, work together or stand alone to convert Eagle sch/pcb version 6.xx*(7.xx-8.xx maybe? I like Eagle best from a usability and efficiency point of view. Had downloaded KiCad and Eagle... didn't know how the hell to start, everything looked quite confusing and even watching or reading tutorials everything still looked confusing. Related topics: Allegro, Altium, DipTrace, Eagle, KiCad, LibrePCB, OrCAD, PADS, Xpedition, Gerber, Footprint, STEP, Breadboard, Electronics, Engineer, Arduino, Raspberry, STM32, ESP32, MSP430, PSoC, AVR, ARM, RISC-V, Embedded, SPICE, LTspice, Simulation, Synth, Robot, DIY. I have been a long time Eagle user. Altium is basically the gold standard because it has a lot of tools to help with high speed design and other specific needs, but … Note that many are re-usable for other tubes as they use the same sockets and pin-outs – see my adapters page for links to more information. Quick Introduction Video Recommended video player Firefox 81.0+ with VLC video player plugin. Zuken seems fairly large overseas, but has very little presence domestically. I like Eagle best from a usability and efficiency point of view. Any cad program will have a learning curve. KiCad is a great option too. That being said, there are three PCB design packages that tend to be the most popular and considered the best: Altium Designer, Eagle, and OrCad. I’ll go against the majority opinion here: I actually used all three packages, Altium professionally, KiCad and Eagle for hobby. Would recommend you try it first before forking out the full whack for Altium. Sort of the GCC of the EDA tool world. I've used Eagle since 2005, but KiCad is getting so good that there's no reason not to switch. But as someone that does UI/UX for a living I can't stand the UI of both of these programs. KiCad 5.1.9 Release Mon, Dec 28, 2020 Project Lead Developer Interview on Fedevel Academy Thu, Dec 17, 2020 KiCad's 2020 End of Year Fund Drive Wed, Dec 16, 2020 KiCad 5.1.8 Release Thu, Nov 5, 2020 kicad.org, the permanent internet home of KiCad Thu, Oct 29, 2020 Sort of the GCC of the EDA tool world. If this is "for work" ie: someone else is paying for it or write off, and you have to hand off files to CMs or for profit companies, Altium. We have listed below, the 7 main differences between Fritzing vs. Eagle. Lots and lots of people are saying nice things about it. Hi both Kicad and eagle are good but in the freeware eagle is given only 80cm2 area i think this is very small pcb size. I prefer Eagle because there is a larger community around it. The libraries include: nixies-us IN-1 IN-2 (RSH-27 … Continue reading "Eagle and KiCAD Libraries" [8] Major Differences Between Fritzing Vs Eagle. Once you switch to OpenGL mode it's great! Cyberspice says: October 2, 2012 at 3:14 pm. And for other reasons, I found KiCad’s Eeschema marginally easier to use. Only thing that sucks is the licensing model. ok, cool, yeah that's what I thought, let go to KiCad, anything goes south, can still go back to Eagle for a project or two. Article Technical Rating: 7 out of 10 There are numerous software packages available for designing printed circuit boards (PCBs), too many in fact. Even the 3D modeling and SPICE simulation is great. If you don't really use these then definitely go for cs over altium! Cookies help us deliver our Services. « Reply #67 on: April 15, 2018, 08:56:24 pm » Yes work places like standards and despite MS office offering to use open document formats it still warns you you could loose data if you save a new file with them and encourages you to use MS formats There are some really great simple tutorials out there to get anyone up and running with it, quickly. What bugs me the most, is the extremely cumbersome way of creating/adding/managing footprints and symbols. EAGLE has a great open XML format. Kicad is free and also have a 3D viewer option this is great and Kicad … KiCAD. If this is for a hobby or your own products, you might give KiCad a try. But holy shit WHY? A lot of times it holds me back in starting a new project. Eeschema and pcbnew also supports EAGLE files. These two programs have a lot of differences, especially since one is a paid package and the other is free of cost. It does not have any limitations like limited size of the board and single sheet per project like in the Free Version of Eagle. [8] Major Differences Between Fritzing Vs Eagle. I've been using KiCad for a few years now and absolutely love it. orcad? [Eagle vs KiCad part 1] There’s a tough decision awaiting anyone who, like me, is about to get into designing their own printed circuit boards (PCBs) – what software to use. Try KiCad I went with 3, because I'm a neophile. Heck I've designed about a dozen of boards with KiCad (some pretty complex ones with thousands of traces too) and I still struggle with this at times. I'd like to hear your opinions about the two, why you love them, why you hate them, something about the learning curve steepness, and of course, if you transitioned from Eagle to one of these two, I really want to hear what do you think! Overall software is good for beginners and the biggest advantage is that this software is freely available. Overcomplicated, lots of hidden things, things you'd expect to work in a certain way and they just don't, completely counterintuitive interface, I can go on and on, I know I'm not alone there. Eagle is available for Windows, Linux, and Mac. But in the coffee roaster project I’m hired to work on, they use Kicad. When was the last time anyone used vellum and tape to design a PCB? Comparación de cuatro herramientas para elaboración de circuitos impresos, con una breve introducción a EasyEDA. Eagle is cheap (free for students) if you want a good all around paid tool. People who used Orcad for 10 years, may think this is best. Library management with LibrePCB is much easier: Easy-to-use library manager to install and update libraries – … If I need something real fast, I still go with Eagle as I am more familiar with it. Although most of the keys are quite intuitive in KiCad it still takes some time to discover them all… I haven’t had that much updates lately but I’m using KiCad now as my main EDA tool. Of course, if i could afford Altium I would use it, but KiCad is the best free and open-source EDA available. And I kind of liked Kicad. Yep, it's built right in. Well KiCad is open source and supported by CERN so it'll only get better. See updated tutorial here!. It's much better to learn Eagle by not designing your own board but by doing tutorials and focusing on the process and how schematic, layout, and manufacturing files are linked. It's so obvious that it's free open source software with tons of small visual bugs and UI quirks and odd glitches. Re: Circuitmaker vs Eagle vs KiCad vs ?? The work CERN put into improving Kicad has paid off stunningly. Upgrade to EAGLE 7 3. I'll do some tests with library migration, hope soon, maybe I'll report here! But still beats Altium’s cost. KiCad allows you to own your technology. EAGLE provides users with the option to create annotations and edits with backward/forward sync, which makes the change in both the board and schematic. It feels like it's about to break out. If you're familiar with Eagle, it can be scary to think all the time spent creating footprints will be lost when switching to KiCad. Besides working "in the industry", where I guess it'd mostly be for file format exchange purposes. Please enable Javascript and refresh the page to continue I, too, tried out Eagle when I first began designing boards and wasn't a fan. I'm going over to KiCad. Don't quote me on that though. But that's not what I'm worried about. KiCad's been getting a lot of attention in the maker world lately. Holy crap, though. Library management with LibrePCB is much easier: Easy-to-use library manager to install and update libraries – … KiCad is the first EDA I've learned to use. KiCad has a much easier learning curve. He’s a Kicad user. Eagle is a commercial software owned by Autodesk. Hence, here we have done an in-depth comparison between KiCad vs Altium Designer. If you're just a hobbyist or something, I couldn't recommend KiCad more. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the PrintedCircuitBoard community, Continue browsing in r/PrintedCircuitBoard, Official subreddit for review / layout / manufacture of Printed Circuit Boards (PCB), including schematic capture, assembly, soldering. 38:58. Upgrade to EAGLE 7 3. uhm, ok, I see, back-annotation is important, of course! I've been using Eagle for something like 5 years now, in the beginning I thought PCB design was just a complicated affair itself, but with time I've grown to think that Eagle is basically a shitty program. Yes, this is a pain every time I start a new project. I have to assume paid software with actual customers to keep happy would be friendlier to use. My only regret is losing the custom parts libraries I've already built, but I think there is a way to migrate eagle parts over. It depends, where are you and what are you doing. KiCad seminar KiCAD is a free & open-source software suite for EDA. Altium and KiCad both have been in the market for more than a decade and hence have gone through refinement and upgrades to become much better over time. I mean, once I found out it stuck and now I do it automatically. Autodesk not so much. Re: KiCAD vs Eagle...Please help me get off the … (I still open Eagle from time to time to open old designs or export stuff…) I’ve used KiCad to design small (non-published) projects. KiCAD vs Eagle...Please help me get off the fence! Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://mansfield-devine.com/speculatrix/2017/12/pcb-design-first-steps-with-eagle/. Or if you're not using a 100mil grid. Altium can also import / open Eagle files and seems to do a decent job at it. KiCAD is better if you are interested in a non-licence type software. Yeh, tough question, I know. Kicad seems buggy and not intuitive to me. Thanks! Perhaps the main difference in these two is that one is a free application, while the other is paid. [Eagle vs KiCad part 8] So, as I mentioned in the previous post, I’ve decided to change direction slightly. by easternstargeek on Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:48 pm . never used KiCad but we are using eagle at work and i'am pretty happy with it. 2. It's just too much of a time saver for me not to have it. But still beats Altium’s cost. My natural inclination is towards KiCad. Now don't get too excited. For a while now the layout engine of KiCAD has been more powerful than similar layout engines of some commercial EDA suites. Moderators: adafruit_support_bill, adafruit 43 posts • Page 3 of 3 • 1, 2, 3. Well KiCad is open source and supported by CERN so it'll only get better. Converting from Eagle to KiCad. Very cumbersome to propagate changes back and forth. I usually don't need to hand files over to anyone, just CAMs for fabbing, it's for my own products. Post here in the comments, on google+ or in the forums! Can you explain why you like it? eapbg #34 Introduction to KiCad from an Eagle users perspective Part 1: Schematic capture and Symbol - Duration: 38:58. eapbg 2,538 views. Eventually I found a program called Diptrace, found it much more user friendly and was able to just jump right in for the most part. It feels like it's about to break out. I've designed about a dozen of boards using it. Seriously. Good free demo and inexpensive pay versions if you want to upgrade. Been using kicad on Mac without issues. Still an upgrade over Eagle in feature set, uses all the Altium libraries, an easy to transfer up to Altium if you need to. yaaay! Only thing that sucks is the licensing model. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Their new free version is clearly a ransomware: you need to get permission to use it … So, I had to switch. If you are new with KiCAD, tutorials are also given in PDF format in many languages and also video tutorials are also available on their website. I think I'm leaning towards KiCad myself as well. It's already been pushing CadSoft to react, as with the move to the open XML file format in v6. BONUS: is anybody out there who's using Eagle and is loving it? Although there are some common features between the two, a designer will find that the workflow in both can be very different, even due to minor differences in navigation, library arrangement, placement of tools in the user interface and other such things. You can get better equipped package for same or lower cost than Altium licene, not to mention that it sticks to the GUI conventions of the three major players (Zucken, Mentor, Cadence). might as well use pencil and paper. Otherwise I try to use KiCAD more. Our WIKI is located at https://www.reddit.com/r/PrintedCircuitBoard/wiki/index, Press J to jump to the feed. 2 thoughts on “ PCB design: Eagle vs KiCad – the verdict ” Cemal Draman 22/11/2018 at 14:38. KiCad’s PCB … It’s fast, and it’s powerful. What in particular makes Altium better from this perspective? This. KiCad 5.1.9 Release Mon, Dec 28, 2020 Project Lead Developer Interview on Fedevel Academy Thu, Dec 17, 2020 KiCad's 2020 End of Year Fund Drive Wed, Dec 16, 2020 KiCad 5.1.8 Release Thu, Nov 5, 2020 kicad.org, the permanent internet home of KiCad Thu, Oct 29, 2020 Altium would be better but can't have everything. And actually, if a symbol part doesn't have the pins aligned on a 100mil grid, it will NEVER connect. It's already been pushing CadSoft to react, as with the move to the open XML file format in v6. But STILL I do not like Eagle. The reasons are two-fold: first, the HexMonitor board is sufficiently complex that I figured it had no chance of working, this being... Read more » Eagle and KiCAD Nixie Libraries I’ve uploaded Eagle and KiCAD libraries for nixie tubes and some useful components to my GitHub page. thanks! I appreciate what this software can do. Circuit, tools and component questions should be posted in /r/askelectronics, Press J to jump to the feed. Eagle's an un-intuitive GUI, pain in the butt, IMO. I actually made this decision two nights ago. Your donation helps to build the KiCad community and ensures future feature development, supports bug fixes, community engagement and the growth of KiCad as the premier Open Source EDA solution. Your donation helps to build the KiCad community and ensures future feature development, supports bug fixes, community engagement and the growth of KiCad as the premier Open Source EDA … Hiya, folks-I’ve been looking at Eagle and KiCAD, trying to decide which one is worth the investment of my time. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. The schematic- and board editors of Eagle are currently more powerful (LibrePCB does not yet support hierarchical sheets, 3D view and more) LibrePCB vs. KiCad. « Reply #23 on: August 30, 2016, 06:51:32 pm » I haven't done any board layouts for a while, but I found Diptrace very easy to get used to. But apart from that, don't you hate the keyboard-mouse interface? It does not have any limitations like limited size of the board and single sheet per project like in the Free Version of Eagle. Using Eagle Footprints in KiCad. Eagle’s modal tool selection in the schematic editor drives me nuts. and have 10s of designs. If there is a reasonable possibility that you want to work for such a company later, having experience with Altium would be much more attractive than KiCad or Eagle. I'd use the new chosen cad to draw new schematics and PCBs, so I wouldn't mind a lack of compatibility in either schematic or board files, but the parts, oh geez, they're a pain in the ass! Really? A lot of this depends on the complexity of your board layouts and if there are any plans in the future for other people (aside from the fab shop) to access or modify your files. yeah sure, a learning curve is expected anywhere, I was just wondering which one had the soapiest ;) Like Eagle has a fucking wall. Looks like they are going to try implementing a project in both of the softwares to get a feel for the differences. This article is an in-depth comparison of two widely used EDA (Electronic Design Automation) programs, KiCad vs OrCAD PCB Designer You can find all the details about their features, performance, pricing, design experience and more.. PCB designing is rapidly growing as an industry and a field of design engineering. [Eagle vs KiCad part 5] Having got as far as a complete schematic for my HexMonitor project with Eagle, it’s time to try the same thing with KiCad.. And just as I did with Eagle, my plan is to design my HexMonitor project that takes signals from one eight-bit and one 16-bit bus and display their values on a four-digit, seven-segment display, all through the magic of shift registers. Curious to hear why you'd say Altium for the pros, KiCad for the hobbyist. KiCAD can import pretty much everything from Eagle so your custom libraries should transfer along with your work. Reply. Try KiCad I went with 3, because I'm a neophile. Right now, KiCAD is coming out ahead, despite the tremendous popularity of Eagle. CircuitStudio is made by Altium and is essentially a cut down version with a simpler interface, at a much better price. KiCAD vs Eagle...Please help me get off the fence! Please be positive and constructive with your questions and comments. I’ll go against the majority opinion here: I actually used all three packages, Altium professionally, KiCad and Eagle for hobby. Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window) Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window) Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window) ... It’s been a busy few months. My gut tells me that if you have been going along okay with Eagle, then choosing KiCad and saving yourself some money would be the best route. Re: Circuitmaker vs Eagle vs KiCad vs ?? KiCAD is available for Windows, OSX and Linux – in binary and source code. I used both, with KiCad as the most recent favourite. I was using altium at my previous job and when I became self employed I switched to circuitstudio. Very glad to hear there's some compatibility, thanks for the feedback! I just started with KiCad and managed to go from "never used any EDA software before ever" to submitting a board to OSHPark in about a dozen hours including creating a new symbol for a dual primary+dual secondary transformer and corresponding footprint for the Tenma part. Rather than continuing with the HexMonitor project to a completed and fabbed board, I’m going with a slightly simpler project. Apart from schematics captures and … I guess I'm too late but if I were you I would have given a try to EasyEDA. Article Technical Rating: 7 out of 10 There are numerous software packages available for designing printed circuit boards (PCBs), too many in fact. )* file(s) and any version of Eagle lib(lbr) to KiCad sch/pcb and lib/mod files. KiCAD is a Cross-Platform and Open Source Electronics Design Automation Suite. Main Differences Between KiCad Vs Eagle Here the main differences between KiCad and EAGLE have been highlighted. Preferred Kicad to Eagle pretty much instantly, without consideration of the price. It took a little bit to learn some of the nuances of KiCAD, but overall, it’s a great EDA tool. Hi, I am a user of the free version of Eagle, for 5 years now. This allows users to pull in existing schematics to KiCad projects. Altium is the choice to master if you want to design PCBs in industry. KiCad's been getting a lot of attention in the maker world lately. KiCAD 2. Eagle's an un-intuitive GUI, pain in the butt, IMO. It's pretty good for spinning 2-layer boards once you get used to the workflow. It’s open and it has none of the restrictions of the free version of Eagle (and... Read more » We have listed below, the 7 main differences between Fritzing vs. Eagle. KiCad overall sounds more useful, but on a mac it's not even an option unless your are ok with getting eye and hand cancer from KiCad's GUI. An Electronic Design Automation (EDA) package is pretty much essential for any serious PCB work, and quite a lot of non-serious work too (which is where I come in). Don't fear! I hope they do, and that they write an article about the experience. Lots and lots of people are saying nice things about it. That being said: I love the Open Source approach of KiCad which in the end is the reason for me to prefer it over Eagle. KiCad lacks an efficient way to keep schematic and layout in sync. I've posted the second part now: https://mansfield-devine.com/speculatrix/2017/12/pcb-design-first-steps-with-eagle/, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the electronics community, A subreddit dedicated to news, articles and general discussions related to electronic systems and circuits. KiCad is probably the best free tool and is capable, but I don't see a lot of companies using it. [Eagle vs KiCad part 2] Okay, so it’s time to start on the road of deciding whether I want to design PCBs in Eagle or KiCad. Orcad is stone aged, most companies are forced to stick with it, as their designs are made in Orcad and its hard to switch. Can’t comment on the commercial version of Eagle, but Kicad 4.0.3 was worlds better than any version of Eagle I’ve ever used. 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